(it looks like this might be moderated out so I’m posting it here for now http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100018299/climategate-science-museums-green-propaganda-backfires/comment-page-3/#comment-100092065)


That statement seems somewhat at odds to the evidence:

Multiple independent global Surface Temp measurments show ~0.8 degree rise since 1900 to now.

* The NASA GISS Global Land-Ocean Temp Index shows ~0.8 degree warming since 1900 http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif

* NOAA http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/anomalies/index.html

* JMA http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/products/gwp/temp/ann_wld.html

Northern Hemisphere Sea Ice Extent has been decreasing at -5.9 (+/- 2.0)% per decade since 1980 http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.png

Total glacier mass has decreased: http://www.geo.unizh.ch/wgms/mbb/mbb10/sum07.html


Sea level is rising at 3.2 +/- 0.4 mm per year (largely due to thermal expansion): http://sealevel.colorado.edu/

There’s plenty more evidence if you want it…

yaosxx continues “…We also don’t have to convince you of anything.”

Er.  Yes you do.  Excuse me if I don’t subscribe to your beliefs without being presented with evidence.

yaosxx continues “… What is more than apparent is the fraud and manipulation by the CRU that has been committed – on which you still base your demented conclusions. If you wish to remain in a time warp that’s your problem – don’t come crying to us or have the nerve to ssy we must convince you!!”

Personally, I have read the context behind many of the CRU emails and I believe that most of the CRU emails become distinctly benign if you read them in their intended context.  But I suspect that you’ll never be convinced that the CRU emails show anything other than conspiracy, fraud and collusion.  Fine.  Chuck out every report the CRU have ever done.  Likewise with any paper Mann has ever written or co-authored.  You’re still left with a huge quantity of evidence.  The CRU form only a small part of the climate science community.  My “demented conclusions” are based on a far wider body of evidence than just the output of the CRU.